It's hard for me to say definitively because I haven't had wtf yet. Some clinics use EPP more than others. Worked for me! If ok, then start stimulation The many repeat bloodworks & ultrasoundsLast stimulation shot + triggerRetrievalSo I started my process in the mid-September and my retrieval happened in early NovemberAlso, I was on MicroFlare protocol, so I am not sure what other medications you might be taking. Associate Director, REI DOR women often get over suppressed by BCP; my doctor uses it as a rule for DOR. Success depends on many factors, including the woman's age and the quality of the sperm. IVF #5 was EPP and HGH. First round I had few follicles 10 and scattered growth after taking bcp before cycles for about 13 days; Tried epp round after that, and had more synchronized growth with same number of follicles. How does a micro-flare protocol differ from mini IVF vs natural cycle? After 5 days of estrogen priming Follitropin alpha (Gonal F, 600 IU/day, s.c.) is started. I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. Outdoor sports and activities of all types. Thanks! I am on my first round of IVF (hopefully last!). I did EPP my second round of IVF. This is caused by insufficient potassium reaching the fruit due to environmental factors such as high air/soil temperatures and overcast skies or heavy fruit load on plants with lower organic matter content in their soils. [lcurtis8] For my first IVF they had me on Lupron. Copyright 2023
A gonadotropin-releasing antagonist hormone (GnRH-ant) is used to stop the ovaries from releasing the matured eggs and allows time for additional maturation until eggs are retrieved for fertilization. I started my estrace this morning and feel a little icky so far. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. I started epp with cetrotide x 3 days. my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. Clomid is cheap, easy to take (oral), drives less risk of OHSS, but is less effective. February 7 - lost our little twin, Baby B had no heartbeat at 20 weeks, June 8, 2011 - DD was born healthy and her twin brother was born to Heaven. Ovarian Stimulation Baseline Ultrasound Collection was yesterday and they retrieved 9 eggs. This hormone is injected by the patient and directly instigates the ovaries to grow more follicles. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. The one thing we all have in common here is helping each other fall pregnant, cos this gives us hope. Estrogen is administered during the luteal phase of the previous menstrual cycle to "prime" the FSH receptors which enhances the response to FSH. Best of luck choosing. Privacy Policy -
Estrogen priming is usually matched with an antagonist to prevent ovulation. You are posting as a Guest without being logged in. Still seems to have had plenty of effect though. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. You may wonder how thats possible. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. poor responders or women with PCOS). This drug prompts the brain to release LH, the signal for ovulation, and is effective in helping to avoid OHSS. Ivf doctor recommendation in nyc or bklyn, Low Ovarian Reserve and Poor Responder to IVF, Ladies 45 and older TTC - *infertility due to age only*. While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to prevent OHSS, these patients dont have a strong reaction to the gonadotropins (hence their modest egg retrieval numbers) and are seldom at risk to be overstimulated. DH: 36 When do you start your next cycle? Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. Is estrogen priming the same thing as using BCPs to suppress? A third option, the Flare protocol is used less often and only in very specific patient types (often poor responders). There is a ton of data out there for 'younger' women 35-42 with fertility issues but I'd like to be able to g, I was taking Estrace and Androderm patch when I went in for my base sonogram and they said I was already ovulating! Create an account or log in to participate. That could be why they are decreasing your Follistim too. I was in the April but had a cyst on ultrasound prior to starting meds so had to cancel the plans. Take a look at the data below published on roughly 1,000 fresh transfers and 1,000 frozen transfers. There are 2 - 3 core protocols: the Long Agonist, Antagonist and Flare. After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. Please enable JavaScript in your browser to load the challenge. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. The dose of gonadotropin matters because, generally speaking, if too little is prescribed, too few eggs are retrieved, and IVF success rates go down. Also covering add-ons like human growth hormone. Anyone with very low AMH do the estrogen priming and have a good response? Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. Good luck! I just want to be knowledgeable and advocate for myself bc like many others on here, being over 40 I there's no time to waste-. There are several methods of pre-treatment that involves using either a combined oral contraceptive pill, progestogen or estrogen. Im over 40 and did estrogen priming for a bunch of cycles and a Lupron stop. Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN I did that back in the beginning of the year but I ovulated in my own and terrified it might happen again. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. Can you try to conceive the cycle that you estrogen prime? Estrogen priming through luteal phase and stimulation phase improved ovarian responsiveness and this may lead to an increase in pregnancy rate in poor responders with failed cycle. However, sometimes when sliced open, white rings can appear in the flesh, a disorder known as "internal white tissue." I had success on an EPP. Estrogen Priming Protocol: For some women, especially for those who have diminished ovarian reserve, it becomes necessary to help the response to the Antagonist protocol. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. The dose of gonadotropin is typically measured in International Units Per Day and ranges from 0 - 900 with most IVF patients receiving 250 - 450 IUs per day. Interesting that they are only putting you on it for 7 days.. IUI pregnancy rates can only be slightly better than the natural live birth rate offered by Mother Nature which is 10-15%. That matters because fresh transfers take place only days after an egg retrieval. Ramped up to cycle on BCP for two weeks and Lupron 10 units 2x/day on stims. I hav, My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. The deadline for sending in seeds was October 15th, but there are still plenty of ways to get involved. This will be my first IVF round and I w, Hi All, That could be bogus, but it makes sense, right? This is the most commonly used protocol whose primary features are a shorter duration of injections and a far lower rate of OHSS, thanks to the ability to use Lupron as a trigger. I did a phone consult with Sher and he suggested the conversion protocol to me as well. Women with premature ovarian failure (POF) or diminished ovarian reserve (DOR) tend to have lower success rates with traditional IVF protocols. Here's what you need to know about the project. The misoprostol was not expensive; on average, it's about $30. Was wondering since your AMH was good and FSH, why did they recommend the Estrogen priming protocol for you? Sadly, both my hatching blasts were abnormal. FertilitySmarts Inc. -
A flare cycle may involve OCP or estrogen-only pretreatment, but the key is that a GnRH agonist (Lupron, Suprefact, or Synarel) will be started at exactly the same time as the stimulating medication. President, ASRM Below is data collected on over 3,000 cycles for each protocol approach in the Netherlands. Its effective, but expensive, and raises the risk of OHSS. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. Thus, for those most concerned with OHSS (like women with PCOS or high AFC or AMH), this can be an inferior option. Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) are used to stimulate the ovaries to recruit and develop more than one follicle. Several functions may not work. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. - Baseline u/s and b/w. The data supporting the use of growth hormone in poor responders leading up to gonadotropin use is more convincing. The first question is naturally, which protocol is more likely to deliver a baby, and when investigators looked at the two most popular strategies, Long Agonist and Antagonist, it became clear both were equally effective in the general IVF population. They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol cant use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. You can see my sig. Good luck & stay positive!! I'm now 19 wks pregnant with #2 from embryo from same batch. As a result, its hard to correct for confounders like the fact that harder cases may (or in our minds, probably) had been given more drug and so the underlying condition, rather than the dose taken, contributed to the lower rates of success. Omnitrope/HGH pricing and protocol question? I have had 4 failed ivf cycles on the short antagonist protocol which all failed, 3 out of the 4 cycles I had 1 average embryo which resulted in chemical pregnancies and 1 cycle I had nothing to. The company offers Elephant Gigantes seeds, as well as free seeds that come with recommended shelf life information included. I think if I hadn't EPP, I wouldn't have had to stim so high. Spandorfer said it would not suppress me to much not sure about this, need to speak with him further. Confirms hormone levels are baseline and gets antral follicle count as a basis for cycle prognosis. An analysis that combined six extremely small studies (that in aggregate only included about 160 patients) show gains in live birth rates, as you can see below. Why so many days of esterace( 15-16 days before starting/adding promethium for 10 days) then the stim cycle, 3. While gonadotropin is the critical drug in most every protocol, its not the only drug. Only 2 drugs during stim and finally got one good pgs tested embryo!!! Often two other types of drugs are needed to accompany gonadotropin: those that block eggs from maturing and being ovulated before they can be retrieved, and those that help trigger the eggs to mature so they can be retrieved. Has anyone had any experience with the Estrogen Priming Protocol? They said that they look at FSH less now as they find it too unreliable. Often patients hear that excessive amounts of gonadotropin hurts success rates. IVF#1 with ICSI spring 2006 - 3 eggs retrieved, one transferred - BFN To conclude, in the group of patients . Yes, we did the same thing. The hypothesis is that if we treat patients prior to starting their IVF cycle with estrogens ( the estrogen priming protocol) or androgens ( such as DHEA) , they will produce more eggs because more follicles will be recruited when we start the superovulation . :-/. Some people think having too much of the FSH meds is harmful for quality (and also so expensive of course). Again, gonadotropin is the injectable hormone that prompts a higher number of follicles, and thus eggs, to grow at any one time. IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. Hottest Topics -- Last 30 Days I was on bcps and Lupron the first ivf. Similarly, many doctors believe low dose approaches work equally well as high dose approaches on women who are likely to be hyper responders. These are women who have a high AMH or had a high number of eggs retrieved in a previous cycle. Our usual regimen is similar to those proposed below: hysteroscopy, prolonged estrogen priming, Estring for local effects, baby aspirin, vaginal phosphodiesterease inhibitors, pentoxifylline, acupuncture, etc., with admittedly little data to support any of our treatment strategies. I am planning on doing 2-3 cycles with banking and then CCS testing due to previous miscarriages. Or are there different levels of this? TTC with DOR (Diminished Ovarian Reserve), the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. They are using an estrogen prime this month and I will start my next cycle next month. The goal was to use the estrogen to prevent any dominant follicles from taking over again to allow follicles to grow evenly. I'd love to hear from women of "advanced (advanced !) My skin looked pretty good for those priming weeks. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. However, the data doesnt bare that out. Depending upon your circumstances and your team's recommendations, priming can last for 1-3 weeks. I just had my ER last week: stimmed for 13 days, started ganerilix on stim day 8, retreived 7 eggs, 3 were mature, 3 fertilized, 1 blastocyst was frozen today on day 5 and I have 2 morulas that will bhopefully be frozen tomorrow as long as they are blastocysts. It all depends on your tests and what specific information they have for you. I also did estrogen priming with the mini. It's a sort of "slow burn" methodology the hope being that they slow you way down and protect egg quality while allowing you to stim longer. I am only 28 with normal amh/fsh levels so we were pretty shocked and upset when we only had a couple embryos on day 3 and then nothing to freeze. Whats important to stress here is that just because some low dose approaches drive comparable rates of success to conventional approaches, that doesnt mean all low-or-no dose approaches are effective. In the case of the fresh transfers, you can clearly see a similar effect to what investigators found above: success rates drop with more drug. This is standard practice when ordering from Ukraine, according to customers wh. I asked my local RE about it, but she wasn't familiar enough with it to try. 6 responded, 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized normally, put all 3 back in at 3dpt - I am currently 27 weeks with one baby girl. I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. In that time a womans hormonal balance has been restored and so IVF cycles using a frozen transfer are more likely to work. Are you sure you want to block this member? DOR does suck, but you can still be successful! I will probably stim for 12-13 days! Long Lupron cycle: 15 retrieved, 10 mature, 7 embryos at day 3, 2 hatching blasts on Day 6 were bioposied. Did not cover diagnostics like doppler test (40 copay but insurance might have covered this), communicable testing ($400 per person), and specialty meds . I'm wondering if, 5/15 They are concerned about egg quality. So, I'm 39 with Amh of 0.07 (undetectable) and FSH of 9. Most experts believe these women just dont seem to respond to increased doses and so above a pretty low threshold of gonadotropin, success rates dont seem to budge much. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. 3rd IVF age 42 : Short protocal Menopur 375; so far on Day 4 scan 2 focilles again and some very small ones I'm starting with this IUI and then will see how I respond and move forward from there. I was long Lupron and that one was cancelled because my precious RE only saw very few follies. Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, How many follicles were you usually starting with? Froze 3. HiI'm new. Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. As you may recall in the Revelli and Yousef studies, 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin were used, which is well higher than most things marketed as mini-stimulation approaches, and any natural (no gonadotropin) approach. Thank you for subscribing to our newsletter! Typically, a poor responder is someone who meets two of three criteria: they have collected three or fewer eggs on a previous cycle, is over age 40, or who has a diminished ovarian reserve (antral follicle count below 5 or an AMH below below 0.5). BFP oct 16th!!! ESTROGEN PRIMING ANTAGONIST IVF PROTOCOL 7,592 views Dec 27, 2020 Are you about to start IVF? Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. During the first two cycles I was on F, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. This was all on the phone, so not 100 percent on what the protocol would be. 2 expanded blasts on Day 6 were not biospied. Trying concieve since 40 Beta 2093 If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. TBD how many fertilize, etc. What affect did the epp have on your follicles? I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? Thanks so much! By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use & Privacy Policy. Yes, I did antagonist for IVF 1, 2 and 3. I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. However, for poor responders many doctors worry such a long duration of suppression can hurt outcomes. After my labs on CD6 they kept 300 Gonal F but upped Menopur to 300. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. As a result, a woman needs to start the process with many eggs. As you can see in our summary below, there are multiple drugs that can perform these two functions the one thats chosen dictates the protocol strategy. Patients undergoing a MFP required more injections (40 vs. 26) than an EPP and spent an average of $4,375.00 compared to EPP patients who spent $5,485.00. 10 retrieved, 6 mature, 6 fertilized (half with ICSI), transferred two 8-cell embryos on day three (both with moderate fragmentation, graded B and C-), the four remaining arrested by day 5. My second included BCP before stimulating and I didnt stimulate well. It's not the same for everyone over 40. Im on this for 21 days starting on cycle day 1. But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! Check out this video to learn more about the. I will have retrieval hopefully this weekend and will let you know what happens. Best of luck x Reply Quote I am about to start my 4th IVF cycle. If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I dont know as much about micro flare. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. First, the analysis was retrospective and not prospective. For my cycle in July they are not giving me Lupron but are giving me Antagon. For this reason, the antagonist protocol is a good option for those women most susceptible to OHSS. There seems to be two schools of thought: My next cycle will also be EPP. But I will be asking the best hardcore questions I can come up with about EPP. The dr decided to put a halt to the process for that month. i had success with DE. Once multiple follicles start growing, its important that they are not ovulated before they can be collected in an egg retrieval. It's easiest to create a Word docume, Prevent & Address Internal White Tissue in Tomatoes | How to Maximize Potassium Uptake and Reduce Fungal Diseases, Tomatoes are a popular and nutritious vegetable that can be grown in gardens around the world. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. It was my best in terms of numbers and success. It will workjust have faith! Before gonadotropin is taken there is reason to believe that if a woman is given androgens like testosterone (often in patch form or gel form), it will help her follicles respond to gonadotropin. Another gardener is pla. Thanks for well wishes. I dont know much.But my RE will do EEP for my second cycle..I'm just reading alot on the net, http://estrogenprimingprotocol.blogspot.com/. Some people prefer the term Diminished Ovarian Reserve or Low Egg Reserve for patients who meet this criteria, as the ovarian response to medications for this group is not always necessarily poor, but rather is simply expected to be lower at their given baseline. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. 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